Rod Khleif: Thats the key Michael, youve added tremendous value today. Bill received a Master of Architecture degree and an MBA from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. Their drama-fueled relationship eventually ended up in divorce, but the Brazilian reality star's professional life took off. Cause you touched on it with me offline, Id like my listeners to hear that. An affluent community[overlap talk}. Prior to Origin Investments, he completed the Risk Management Leadership Program at GE Capital. Operationally, weve increased revenues about 50%. I assume theres an asset management fee What other sorts of fees can a person expect in a vehicle like yours? He currently resides in the Knox Henderson neighborhood of Dallas and is originally from Ohio. Market. Ep #183 Grant Cardone Controls Over 4,000 Apartments Worth Over a Half a Billion Dollars. Number 7: Kenneth Tuchman. At Morningstar, Melissa set the marketing communications strategy to drive demand for an extensive line of products for financial advisors, including software, events and investment management services. Michael Jordan's net worth is $2.2 billion. With Michaels leadership, Origin has $1 billion in equity under management and has executed more than $2.6 billion in real estate transactions in fast-growing markets throughout the U.S. Steve is an Investor Relations Associate whose responsibilities include expanding the firms investor base and serving the needs of our high-net worth individual investors. He provided superior administrative services for clients custodial accounts and alternative investment portfolios. Preston recently joined our acquisitions team as an Analyst. In our case, our earlier Funds I and II had projected returns of 17-19 percent, however Fund I is on track to generate a 28 percent net return and Fund II is on track to deliver a 26 percent return. He was formally trained as a multi-disciplinary artist with an emphasis on conceptual thinking at the School of the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston. Michael Episcope is a Principal at Origin Investments based in Chicago, Illinois. Michael Episcope is the Principal and Co-Founder of Origin Investments, a private equity real estate firm that serves high net worth individuals, family offices, and wealth management firms. Ivette received her Bachelor Degree in Law Enforcement and Justice Administration in 2015 and obtained her Paralegal Certificate from an ABA Approved Program at the College of Lake County in 2021. And you look at all the low hanging fruit that the management team wasnt charging for, and so Ill take it. Specialist vs Generalist Michael is admitted to the Illinois Bar and the Northern District of Illinois. Michael Episcope: Yeah. Originally from Wisconsin, he is an avid Green Bay Packers and Wisconsin Badgers fan. He is co-CEO, co-chairs the investment committee and oversees investor relations and capital raising. And even more importantly to that, the debt has to match the business plan of the asset and making sure If were buying an office building, theres a risk that one of the larger tenants may vacate over the next two years, then our debt today has to be matched to the potential exit of that tenant. That was kinda the impetus of us starting together. Regina received her Bachelors in Accounting from the University of Illinois at Chicago. In her current role, Priya oversees Origins fund and corporate-level financial operations, executes year-end audits, interfaces with the tax team, tracks corporate performance, and manages reporting requirements of lenders, general partners and other stakeholders. Appreciate you having me on today. Grant Cardone Controls Over 4,000 Apartments Worth Over a Half a Billion Dollars. Melissa received a Bachelors degree with a major in Strategic Communications from the University of Kansas and a Masters degree in Integrated Marketing Communications from Northwestern University. Right? This was fantastic. Michael Episcope: Well, thank you for having me on the show. The importance of risk management Well have that for probably another four years. Michael is co-CEO of Origin Investments, co-chairs the Investment Committee, and oversees investor relations, marketing and company operations. Im glad you asked that too because in this business you learn a lot more from the deals that go wrong and the mistakes. In her free time, she enjoys spending time with her nieces and nephews, working out, trying new restaurants, and taking Latin Ballroom lessons. So many, I would say 50% of them, we were able to buy back in the first three months and people were so thankful to us even to come there to provide them with an exit strategy. Christopher Joined Origin in September of 2022 as a Senior Accounting Associate. Michael Episcope - $1 Billion in Multifamily and Commercial Real Estate Transactions Ep #225 Michael Episcope - $1 Billion in Multifamily and Commercial Real Estate Transactions Watch Now Listen Now LIFETIME CASH FLOW THROUGH REAL ESTATE INVESTING LIFETIME CASH FLOW THROUGH REAL ESTATE INVESTING What does this mean for the high net worth individual (HNWI) trying to create wealth? He received his Bachelor degree in Chemistry from Hope College and his JD from Valparaiso University School of Law. His name is Michael Episcope, and Michael is the co-CEO of Origin Investments. Rod Khleif: Sure. Michael Episcope Principal at Origin Investments Published Aug 17, 2017 + Follow This article was . We just dont believe that so as weve seen this rent gap between urban and suburban just widen, one of our thesis is that we wanna be in suburban multifamily, so when this swings, and these Millennials start moving out there that we can position ourselves for that. But one in particular that comes to mind is, I got pulled into a deal by a friend of mine, it was in Austin, Texas. Jimmy received his Bachelor of Arts Degree in Business from the University at Buffalo. Ill tell you though, I wouldnt trade it for anything, even though I made a ton of mistakes, and I learned a ton, but it has really helped shape me as an investor and what I am today, and why I do what I do. Id love to get your insights and your thoughts on Obviously, real estate goes though cycles. What are the eight markets that youre in? I went to school in Chicago. And again, we feel that that is an institutional pricing standard in the business. When I look back, I could look at a deal, and I was trying to evaluate people, and he was vouched for by a good friend of mine, but you fast-forward a couple of years and we went into very bad times. Prior to joining Origin full-time, Ryan was a Data Scientist intern. He currently resides in the Lincoln Park neighborhood of Chicago and in his spare time enjoys golfing, skiing, and spending time at the lake in the summer. He received his Bachelor of Science Degree in Accounting from Michigan State University and a dual Master of Science in Accounting and Master of Business Administration Degree from Loyola University Chicago. And once youve made a commitment to the fund, what happens then is that as we buy assets, we call capital. She joined Origin in early 2017 after spending nearly a decade at Morningstar, Inc., a leading provider of independent investment research. Any investment opportunities mentioned on this podcast are limited to accredited investors. Preceding her most recent experience she was in the Mortgage Servicing Industry at Fay Servicing, Energy Monitoring & Consulting at Mad Dash, Inc. You think you know what youre doing so you get comfortable or lackadaisical, and you dont keep your eye on the ball, and boom! And thats exactly what were talking about here. Two years later, she took a role as a Property Accountant at SLM Realty, LLC., where she was first exposed to the real estate industry. Understanding capital commitment fees If fund for, look for changes coming up in that strategy, and more of a hybrid evergreen to buy-fix-sell to more of a buy-fix-hold. Michael Episcope: Yeah. What is the proper cap rate? Scott explains that with commercial real estate, the value is based upon the net operating income . Michael Episcope: Right. Providing guidance with clear understanding of where they stand everyday. Anthony was born to Michael Volpe and Isabella Volpe on April 28, 2001. She strives to discover the finest solutions to all design problems. I can give you a couple of examples if you want. She has over 12 years of accounting and financial experience in commercial real estate with a portfolio of assets totaling over $900 million. Why funds vs syndications Kyle is responsible for sourcing, structuring, and execution of new acquisitions across Nashville and Central Florida. You dont hold properties for legacy or long-term cash flow. Those of you that are doing your own syndications, do not short-circuit that process. . Before joining Origin Investments in 2015, Marc served as Vice President of Asset Strategy at Lightstone, a New York investment firm with $2 billion of assets under management. Tom joined Origin Investments in early 2011 and is responsible for sourcing multifamily investments across the Western United States. She is on the Young Adult Board for Horizons for Youth, a Chicago non-profit, and is a member of CREW's Network Liaison Committee. Dan currently lives in Uptown, enjoys golf, and cheering for the Detroit Lions! But we talked about the buy-fix-sell, thats more of a buy-fix-hold and sell in about four years. Ken joined Origin in 2018 as an Associate on the Investment Management team. I could barely get my head through a door cause I thought I was a real estate god and you know. Steve graduated from the University of Iowa in 2020, where he studied Business Administration, Economics, and International Relations. In 2007, Michael Episcope co-founded Origin Investments, a top-decile fund manager that helps high-net-worth investors, family offices and clients of registered investment advisors grow and preserve wealth by providing best-in-class real estate solutions. . Rod Khleif: So youre a buy-fix-sell investor. This was consistent with the thesis. Michelle is a gamer and enjoys spending her free time playing online video games. Michael Episcope, principal at Origin Investments, joins the show to discuss how machine learning is helping to guide the future of multifamily development. Michael Episcope: Potentially, yeah, if it were an individual asset thats not the strategy. For more resources or to connect with us further, please visit our website at rodkhleif.com. I went to DePaul University as an undergrad. Tune in next week for our next show. You have to over communicate to give your investors comfort. While at Ventas she led the transformation and scaling of FP&A, corporate risk, legal, accounting, treasury, and property management functions. The investments been going very well on that side. That can also be a big negative. Michael Episcope: In Chicago, yeah It really afforded him a lifestyle It was nice. My first career was in commodities trading. We got this thing for a song. Thats one of the distinct advantages but it comes down to creating structures that we want to invest in. The company was founded in 2007 by real estate fund managers Michael Episcope and David Scherer to invest their own money in office buildings and apartment developments in secondary U.S. cities. "We believe that investors deserve the most talented and disciplined team to actively manage their real estate investing portfolio. Michael Episcope: No, but I have it on my desk, my partner [overlap talk]. At AlterDomus, Garrett provided portfolio administration and cash management services for several credit fund portfolios. If you can build value and continue to build cash flow in the asset, we leverage two to one to equity. Its in a fund, so never mind. Jimmy serves as an accounting associate here at Origin Investments. In her free time, she enjoys spending time with her family, traveling, and trying new restaurants. We bought an asset in Naperville, Illinois. Michael Episcope: Rod, just to back your other point, we talked about fund advantage, one of the nice things, if you have an individual deal, and it goes bad, you cant borrow from another transaction to ride the ship in that deal, cause chances are you have different investors across. We sort of stopped and said, Look, we can take this down with our own capital but what do we want to be when we grow up. Rod Khleif: Gives a diversification of risk, for sure. His responsibilities include forecasting rent growth, automating ETL processes, and creating analytical models for the needs of our team. Welcome to the show, buddy. Join Origin Principal Michael Episcope and Dr. James M. Dahle, M.D., editor, author, and owner of White Coat Investor, on May 20th at. Cody is a Senior Accounting Associate here at Origin Investments. Michael Episcope worked as a commodities trader for 15 years while investing passively before deciding to take things a step further and earn a master's degree in real estate. Its not borderline at all. We try to make it better and look at the things we do well, things that we can improve on and things, and things like that. Michael is co-CEO of Origin Investments, co-chairs the Investment Committee, and oversees investor relations, marketing and company operations. So if things do happen, youll be able to ride the ship. When we went out, this was in 2010, and it was crazy times then and this was We syndicated some smaller deals prior to that but we had a good network. All of our deals have to work well together and in order for us to get paid cumulatively, a fund has to generate more than a 9% return. And thats what I was talking about. Rod Khleif: Let me ask you this, you find an A-minus asset, or a B-plus asset, its not like the heavy reposition that you would do on a C-asset where youre going in and completely redoing the interior and all that. Its a big component of what we do today. Jordan's success in the entertainment industry has led to significant wealth, which has enabled him to live a comfortable lifestyle and invest in real estate. Michael brings 25 years of investment and risk management experience to the company and believes that calculated risk-taking in inefficient markets is the key to building wealth. Of course, the timing was terrible, you couldnt have timed it that worse than 06 but you didnt look at the operator close enough, so thats a lesson. Michael Episcope says he found himself with over 20 hours a week of free time as a result of Chicago's shelter-in-place order, issued on March 20. . Earlier in his career, he worked the Associate General Counsel and Assistant Secretary at APAC Customer Services. Thats anywhere between 1.5% and 3% on one time. During his decade long tenure at Equity Office, Marc performed underwriting and valuation analysis on corporate acquisitions with a total value in excess of $15 billion and developed and executed investment strategy for assets with an aggregate value over $2 billion. Some went fine and some that didnt go so well. And also by vintage as well, which is important because we will be investing over a period of two to three year and building that portfolio. Aaron studied Political Science and Economics at Emory University in Atlanta, GA. As one of Americas top real estate professionals Rod mentors business leaders and entrepreneurs through world-class speaking events, books, and training courses online and around the world. Since moving here in 2003, He has taken the opportunity to enjoy a wide variety of food and activities that the city has to offer. As Principal, David co-chairs the Investment Committee and oversees the analysis, acquisition, and asset management teams at Origin. This transaction is expected to close in the first quarter of 2023, subject to customary closing conditions. He is an accomplished French horn player, contemporary art collector and competitive recreational cyclist. As you know, Rod, population centers, job growth, population growth, thats where you wanna position yourself. Suburban multifamily has been sort of all out of favor and we saw the cranes that are happening downtown and everybody believes that every millennial is gonna live in the city. Geoff holds a Bachelors degree with a double major in Sociology and English from College of the Holy Cross and a Masters degree in Strategic Marketing and Communications from DePaul University. Prior to joining Origin, Barbara was the managing editor of HOTELS, a Chicago-based publication covering the global hotel business. Can you just give some strategy to my listeners? Rod Khleif: You have to be continually learning. He has more than 30 years of experience in real estate investing, finance and asset management. He is the co-CEO of Origin Investments, a private equity real estate firm that serves close to 3,000 high net worth individuals. During the unpredictable Chicago winters, she tries to stay active and has found skiing and skating in the park to be her favorite wintertime activities. Summary. Ill take you back a little bit farther maybe than you wanna go Born and raised in the Chicago area. Rod Khleif: Oh, gotcha. Garrett received a Bachelor of Arts with a major in Economics from Indiana University. Michael Episcope: Yeah. Michael Episcope: Well, we bought it at very low occupancy so [overlap talk]. Marc has 27 years of experience in asset management, acquisition, disposition, underwriting and valuation, leasing, debt structuring, risk management and due diligence for both public and private real estate investments. The video has had 9.6K views so far. Michael Michele (born August 30, 1966) is famous for being movie actress. Michael earned his undergraduate and masters degrees from DePaul University. Prior to Centro, Geoff spent over a decade in marketing for higher education institutions, non-profits, and startups. We actually just acquired an asset. Michael Episcope: Then we had nine that we bought out over time. Risk management is one of the things we do well, and its also We talk about and we meet investors, its something we talk about incessantly, and something maybe we obsess about a little bit here; about what our growth rates gonna be? We dont have any acquisition fees in our fund. Jennifer serves as Office Manager and Executive Assistant to the Co-CEOs Michael and David. She was responsible for planning, creating and distributing content, including email marketing, writing articles for the EveryDose blog, and managing the company's social media presence. We just wanted to build a firm around our capital that would represent us as individual investors, in a way where we could take advantage of the market and take advantage of real estate investing and realize its true benefits. . Before ELS, she worked at Lilis Energy in Dallas, Texas, as an analyst cross-specializing in investor relations and transaction work. When I transitioned out of commodities trading in 05, I went back and I went and got a Masters in real estate at DePaul University as well. It also had a broken condo structure, and what was interesting about that is that the previous owner, because he was embarking on a condo structure, he actually upgraded all of, what well call, the non-revenue generating components of the property. Between my freshman and sophomore year, I got a job on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, and decided I loved it, and that was the start of a 16-year career there. In his free time, he enjoys spending time at the lakefront, trying new foods, and traveling. Chris lives in the 12South neighborhood of Nashville and is involved with citys Young Leaders Council. legal firm chicago deaths legal firm chicago deaths. degree with honors in Electrical Engineering from Izhevsk Technical State University in Russia, and received her MBA from The University of Chicago Booth School of Business. The company acquires, owns and operates office and multifamily properties in eight U.S. markets. Tom currently resides in Denver with his wife and children, is a cyclist, skier and loves to travel. Anyway, I just want to explain that to my listeners that may not understand what a broken condo conversion is. She is an analytical, creative and strategic thinker who views marketing as the psychology of business. Got it. Michael Episcope: Its a capital commitment fee. 11. He has closed over $2.3 billion of transactions and has raised or invested principal funds of over 56 million and averaging a gross IRR of 30%. Naperville is the third largest city in Illinois. Prior to Stony Point, Kevin worked at KETTLER, a leading investor, developer and property manager based in Virginia. Michael Episcope: Theres probably a lot of investors out there who have invested passively, and done things wrong. Origin builds, buys and lends to class A multifamily real estate, in a tax and climate-friendly state. Its for our acquisition team who are in their markets. Gina graduated from DePaul University with a Bachelor of Science in Business with a major in Hospitality Leadership. Before Joining Origin, Christopher previously worked at Northern Trust and AlterDomus. Edelisa Episcope. What were trying to do is really take, what we call, core plus risk and deliver value add returns. Tom Wheelwright CPA, author of Tax-Free Wealth: How to Build Massive Wealth by Permanently Lowering Your Taxes (Rich Dad Advisors) discusses the greatest financial benefits to multifamily real estate investing. In 2007, Michael Episcope co-founded Origin Investments, a top-decile fund manager that helps high-net-worth investors, family offices and registered investment advisors grow and preserve wealth by providing best-in-class real estate solutions. Thank you. A year later, we started our first fund, if you will, and all of those investors came onto that fund [overlap talk]. In her roles, Gina specialized in Front Office operations where she was responsible for managing guest feedback and supporting the team to deliver personalized service from arrival to departure. You should be comparing the people behind the returns. I has some okay experiences, I had some not so great experiences, as well. North Hills, CA. At the age of 19 years old I got a summer job down at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and that was between my freshman and sophomore year of college at DePaul. Developers have enjoyed years of consistent, reliable rental rate growth, with the average rent growing 13.5% in 2021 and another 6.2% last year, according to Yardi Matrix. My experience in real estate actually extends back to kinda when I was 11, 12, 13, working for my grandfather in the summers. We had a deal that we kind of We ended up buying a distressed pool of debt from a bank and it was one of these crazy days when the market was down 800 points, and you know, everything was down. Additionally, Dave was a member of the Portfolio Management group that oversaw the investment management and strategic direction for two separate account pension fund clients that had a combined asset value of more than $2 billion and comprised over 10 million square foot of multifamily, office, retail and industrial assets throughout the U.S. I mean, for the quality of that management [overlap talk]. At Ventas Kate was responsible for business transformation and M&A integration and was a key player in the divestiture of Care Capital Partners as a standalone publicly-traded REIT in 2015. Jonathans responsibilities include expanding the firms investor base and serving the needs of our Registered Investment Advisor and high-net individual investors. But what well do is well forego cash flow in the first two years. She received her undergraduate degree in Political Science from the University of Southern California and her JD from the Northwestern University School of Law. If I were outside of this business, I would invest in a fund. How to build good will for future deals, Book Recommendation: Principles by Ray Dalio, To learn more about our guest, click here, Join us at a Multifamily Bootcamp, visit MultifamilyBootcamp.com, Ep #225 Michael Episcope 1 Billion in Real Estate Transactions. And he actually did. Technically, Michael Jackson's net worth at the time of his death was negative $500 million. Guys, if you wanna reach out to Michael, hes at OriginInvestments.com. Ivette serves as a Paralegal here at Origin Investments. As it stands today, we are buy-fix-sell, so typically the average hold-period is probably three and a half years. Of course, youre absolutely fixing these units up to sell them as condos. Now, there are funds out there that charge both a committed fee and acquisition fee. Previously, Michael was a Board Member at Illinois Education Fou ndation and also held positions at Meer Development, CME Group, Tradelink, Bracket Partners. 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